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                                   Our Relations and Theirs 

     What   I'm   trying   to   show   here   is   that   with   these   women   the   whole 

relationship of life counted in a glad�察�eager growing´up to join the ranks of 

workers   in   the   line   best   loved�察  �a   deep�察  �tender   reverence   for   one's   own 

mothertoo deep for them to speak of freelyand beyond that�察�the whole�察�

free�察  �wide   range   of   sisterhood�察  �the   splendid   service   of   the   country�察  �and 

friendships。 

            To   these   women   we   came�察  �filled   with   the   ideas�察  �convictions�察�

traditions�察  �of   our   culture�察  �and   undertook   to   rouse   in   them   the   emotions 

whichto usseemed proper。 

            However much�察�or little�察�of true sex´feeling there was between 

us�察�it phrased itself in their minds in terms of friendship�察�the one purely 

personal love they knew�察�and of ultimate parentage。                Visibly we were not 

mothers�察�nor children�察�nor compatriots�察�so�察�if they loved us�察�we   must be 

friends。 

            That    we    should    pair  off  together    in  our   courting    days   was 

natural to them�察  �that we  three  should remain   much   together�察�as they  did 

themselves�察�was also natural。          We had as yet no work�察�so we hung about 

them in their forest tasks�察�that was natural�察�too。 

            But when we began to talk about each couple having ;homes; of 

our own�察�they could not understand it。 

            ;Our   work   takes   us   all   around   the   country�察─  �explained   Celis。 

;We cannot live in one place all the time。; 

            ;We are together now�察─�urged Alima�察�looking proudly at Terry's 

stalwart   nearness。      ��This   was   one   of   the   times   when   they   were   ;on�察─�

though presently ;off; again。�� 

            ;It's   not   the   same   thing   at   all�察─  �he   insisted。 ;A  man   wants   a 

home of his own�察�with his wife and family in it。; 

            ;Staying in it�拭     �All the time�拭─�asked Ellador。         ;Not imprisoned�察�

surely� ─�

            ;Of course not�       �Living therenaturally�察─�he answered。 



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            ;What does she do thereall the time�拭─�Alima demanded。 ;What 

is her work�拭─�

            Then   Terry   patiently   explained   again   that   our   women   did   not 

workwith reservations。 

            ;But what do they doif they have no work�拭─�she persisted。 

            ;They take care of the homeand the children。; 

            ;At the same time�拭─�asked Ellador。 

            ;Why yes。       The children play about�察�and the mother has charge 

of it all。   There are servants�察�of course。; 

            It seemed so obvious�察�so natural to Terry�察�that he always   grew 

impatient�察�but the girls were honestly anxious to understand。 

            ;How   many   children   do   your   women   have�拭─        �Alima   had   her 

notebook out now�察�and a rather firm set of lip。            Terry began to dodge。 

            ;There is no set number�察�my dear�察─�he explained。                ;Some have 

more�察�some have less。; 

            ;Some have none at all�察─�I put in mischievously。 

            They   pounced   on   this   admission   and   soon   wrung   from   us   the 

general   fact   that   those   women   who   had   the   most   children   had   the   least 

servants�察�and those who had the most servants had the least children。 

            ;There� ─  �triumphed   Alima。        ;One   or   two   or   no   children�察  �and 

three or four servants。       Now what do those women DO�拭─�

           We   explained   as   best   we   might。    We   talked   of   ;social   duties�察─�

disingenuously banking on their not interpreting the words as we did�察�we 

talked   of   hospitality�察  �entertainment�察  �and   various   ;interests。; All   the   time 

we knew that to these large´minded women whose whole mental outlook 

was     so   collective�察  �the   limitations     of  a   wholly    personal     life  were 

inconceivable。 

            ;We cannot really understand it�察─�Ellador concluded。                 ;We are 

only half a people。       We have our woman´ways and they have their man´ 

ways and their both´ways。          We have worked out a system of living which 

is�察�of course�察�limited。       They must have a broader�察�richer�察�better one。               I 

should like to see it。; 

            ;You shall�察�dearest�察─�I whispered。 

     ;There's nothing to smoke�察─�complained Terry。                He was in the midst 



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of a prolonged quarrel with Alima�察�and needed a sedative。 ;There's nothing 

to drink。     These blessed women have no pleasant vices。                I wish we could 

get out of here� ─�

            This wish was vain。         We were always under a certain degree of 

watchfulness。        When   Terry   burst   forth   to   tramp   the   streets   at   night   he 

always   found   a   ;Colonel;   here   or   there�察  �and   when�察  �on   an   occasion   of 

fierce   though   temporary   despair�察  �he   had   plunged   to   the   cliff   edge   with 

some vague view to escape�察�he found several of them close by。                     We were 

freebut there was a string to it。 

            ;They've no unpleasant ones�察�either�察─�Jeff reminded him。 

            ;Wish they had� ─�Terry persisted。            ;They've neither the vices of 

men�察�nor the virtues of womenthey're neuters� ─�

            ;You     know     better   than   that。   Don't     talk  nonsense�察─    �said   I�察�

severely。 

            I   was   thinking   of   Ellador's   eyes   when   they   gave   me   a   certain 

look�察�a look she did not at all realize。 

            Jeff    was   equally    incensed。     ;I   don't   know    what    `virtues   of 

women' you miss。         Seems to me they have all of them。; 

            ;They've       no   modesty�察─    �snapped      Terry。    ;No     patience�察    �no 

submissiveness�察 �none   of   that   natural   yielding   which   is   woman's   greatest 

charm。; 

            I   shook    my    head    pityingly。    ;Go     and   apologize     and   make 

friends again�察�Terry。       You've got a grouch�察�that's all。         These women have 

the virtue   of   humanity�察  �with   less   of   its   faults   than   any  folks   I   ever   saw。 

As for patiencethey'd have pitched us over the cliffs the first day we lit 

among 'em�察�if they hadn't that。; 

            ;There   are   nodistractions�察─  �he   grumbled。         ;Nowhere   a   man 

can go and cut loose a bit。        It's an everlasting parlor and nursery。; 

            ;and     workshop�察─      �I  added。     ;And      school�察   �and   office�察  �and 

laboratory�察�and studio�察�and theater�察�andhome。; 

            ;HOME� ─�he sneered。            ;There isn't a home in the whole pitiful 

place。; 

            ;There isn't anything else�察�and you know it�察─�Jeff retorted hotly。 

;I never saw�察�I never dreamed of�察�such universal peace and good will and 



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mutual affection。; 

             ;Oh�察�well�察�of course�察�if you like a perpetual Sunday school�察�it's 

all very well。      But I like Something Doing。           Here it's all done。; 

             There was something to this criticism。             The years of pioneering 

lay    far  behind    them。     Theirs     was   a   civilization   in   which    the   initial 

difficulties   had   long   since   been   overcome。        The   untroubled   peace�察  �the 

unmeasured   plenty�察  �the   steady   health�察  �the   large   good   will   and   smooth 

management which ordered everything�察�left nothing to overcome。                        It was 

like a pleasant family in an old established�察�perfectly run country place。 

             I   liked   it   because   of   my   eager   and   continued   interest   in   the 

sociological achievements involved。              Jeff liked it as he would have liked 

such a family and such a place anywhere。 

             Terry   did   not   like   it   because   he   found   nothing   to   oppose�察  �to 

struggle with�察�to conquer。 

             ;Life   is  a  struggle�察  �has    to  be�察─  �he  insisted。   ;If   there   is  no 

struggle�察�there is no lifethat's all。; 

             ;You're     talking   nonsensemasculine         nonsense�察─     �the  peaceful 

Jeff replied。     He was certainly a warm defender of Herland。                  ;Ants don't 

raise their myriads by a struggle�察�do they�拭            �Or the bees�拭─�

             ;Oh�察�if you go back to insectsand want to live in an anthill� �I 

tell   you   the   higher   grades    of   life  are  reached   only   through     struggle 

combat。       Th
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